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Offline cran pibae

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2015, 04:40:03 PM »
Throwdown Thursday 5 begins in about an hour an a half! 6pm AEST

Here is the sign up page if you are interested in competing:
http://aunfc.challonge.com/tournaments/signup/faonPZPOeZ

When you sign up, make sure you add Hablaskakaf to your steam friends list. He is the tournament organiser for tonight and he will invite you to his endless lobby when your game is up.

Tourney rules:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IronScrub/comments/33gc8e/faqs_info_tourney_rules_signup_links_etc/

Preview of tonight's tourney:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IronScrub/comments/33gn6m/here_comes_the_new_challengers_throwdown_thursday/

The stream for tonight will be at
twitch.tv/hablaskakaf
meat squasher!

Offline cran pibae

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2015, 05:45:16 PM »
And Shang Tsung has entered the competition! OHHHHHH SHIT
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Offline Presto

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2015, 01:12:01 AM »
Couldn't make it for this one unfortunately sorry for signing up and then not showing, I wasn't sure if I could make it and thought id better sign up just in case I could.
Also Niah Forever 5th place?

Offline cran pibae

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2015, 08:24:44 AM »
Throwdown Thursday 5 results:

1st Shang Tsung
2nd Vindk8
3rd Phero/fknbun
4th Furyblitz
5th Phero/fknbun
5th Niah
7th IAT | Andruthless
7th babijoee
9th bksama
9th furagon23
9th SPAMMERRR
9th YOLORDE
13th Achilles
13th The Assman
13th Youngbl00d|2G
17th Bakemono (Kyou_S)
17th Dreamtime
17th fkn Rossco
17th hanbaobao1130
17th Render
17th Yuki
17th Sedgehammer
25th Zola
25th 67P
25th QewQew

*notes:
Phero and fknbun self-dq at the same time before their winners semis match due to other commitments
Rossco self-dq before 3rd round of losers due to other commitments
Zola self-dq before 1st match of losers due to other commitments
Niah was dq'ed from his first round match for showing up 2 hours late, but subsequently fought his way to 5th place on one life


Full bracket here:
http://aunfc.challonge.com/TDTV



Thanks everyone for participating and sorry for the delays and sound problems and what not. The main tournament organiser couldn't make it and poor Hab has never done this sort of thing before so I stepped in to help out. I tried to be accommodating for everyone but the end result was that some matches were delayed like crazy and that caused some players to drop out. I take responsibility for that so my apologies for that guys. I hope that hasn't soured people's experience too much. :( The usual TO is less noob like me
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Offline keikei

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Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2015, 09:15:24 AM »
B+1+2
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Offline Kay

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2015, 10:35:48 AM »
Yo that is.. so getting into highlight reel.

Offline Niah

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2015, 02:55:37 PM »
Why must I be 5th! WHY! I WANT MY GOD DAMN SECOND WIND!
Turning into nothing in 10 seconds flat cause the whole pc community are asses. I'm also 100% soji approved, making me 20% cooler

Offline Zola

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2015, 08:44:31 PM »

Thanks everyone for participating and sorry for the delays and sound problems and what not. The main tournament organiser couldn't make it and poor Hab has never done this sort of thing before so I stepped in to help out. I tried to be accommodating for everyone but the end result was that some matches were delayed like crazy and that caused some players to drop out. I take responsibility for that so my apologies for that guys. I hope that hasn't soured people's experience too much. :( The usual TO is less noob like me

Mate, I just signed up to say however slow things went, this was really well done. I wish I could have participated fully, but some important things popped up right after the kick off (mate just had a baby and had to have a wee celebration!) so I apologise for dropping out.

A lot of people tried and failed at online tourney's on XBL (including me back in the day), but I think the PC format is really suited to this type of thing due to that chat box and the PC comms being a lot easier. The sign up system is very well done. I think the fact you had a great turn out with some of the big guns showing up is testament to how well you guys are doing with this.

Great work and thanks for organising, hopefully you can keep it going. Online has been crying out for something like this for years and it's better late than never!  8)

Offline Kay

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2015, 06:36:11 PM »
Thanks for your support! OP updated.

Offline Zola

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2015, 01:36:05 AM »
Thanks for your support! OP updated.

I get a write up? Lol that's awesome, but completely unfounded - apart from the Niah stuff.  ;)

Love your work.

PS - I only play T-Hawk if I'm trolling.

Offline Rushdown Turtle

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2015, 10:31:45 AM »
Huge (HUGE!) props on starting and organising these, they've been super fun and I can't wait for more so thank you! I do have some feedback if interested because i'd love to see this grow..

IMO the time management needs some rethinking, some of us have work early the next day and can't afford to be waiting around too much. Also, if time could be consistent and on point, i think there'd be more chance of people putting their hand up to commentate if they know when it ends for example.

I think if people are told to be there at 6 and that it starts at 6:10, then perhaps if it actually starts at 6:15, do a roll call then and there and DQ anyone not there by that point so things can move on. (there's nothing really on the line and it's a weekly so i think you can be harsh)
It could also be a good idea if only one match is chosen from round 1 to be streamed, and the rest all go play their matches at the same time/asap, seeing as they're all there and have been roll called, this would keep things moving out of the early slower rounds.

Rather than you guys trying to add every newcomer, then having some missing when it starts and asking people if they know them etc, make it part of the rules that you add a certain account/s (Kay/habla/cran?) as friend before the event if not already and if you don't add them you won't be able to take part.

As a possible future suggestion.. If it had a $2 entry via paypal, then perhaps there could be a small prizepool % as well as some funds going to the organisers to keep it up and growing.

Really great work so far though, looking forward to the next one :)

Offline Gamogo

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2015, 11:16:04 AM »
One option might be to create a dedicated Steam group that is administrable by key organisers of the bracket.

i.e. "Tournament on X date, join <group name> to enter."

That way when you lock down your registrations and are ready to generate brackets, you will have a shortlist of immediately accessible Steam handles that the tournament runner can use as a shortlist to invite into the stream game lobby. For those not playing in the stream lobby, they can pluck out the Steam handles from the group of those they are scheduled to play next and fire them an invite. Anyone not present/online in the group after the tournament starts could be considered bksama'd. Also keep in mind that Steam groups also have dedicated chat channels, which would be handy.

This might help get around the "Is <player> online? What is his Steam name?" I noticed cropping up when Mike and I were commentating. Even if players aren't on your personal buddy list, a dedicated Steam group for this kind of thing will help people find one another and kick off a bracket match quickly. There would be no excuses for not having them as a contact (unless they are using an alias - which I suggest you request players register as their tournament name) so you could then start getting aggressive with start times, which in my experience is the only way to get online tournaments to run smoothly.

Steam groups ALSO facilitate event creation AND allow you to invite players by Steam name to populate a short list. It also fires out reminder notices to players in advance of events that are beginning which I feel would be handy.

Something to consider.
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Offline Zola

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2015, 01:00:53 PM »
Good suggestions. I agree it would flow much faster if everyone just played their first games via the steam chat. Then you could just pick some to stream.

Offline Kay

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2015, 11:32:54 AM »
It could also be a good idea if only one match is chosen from round 1 to be streamed, and the rest all go play their matches at the same time/asap, seeing as they're all there and have been roll called, this would keep things moving out of the early slower rounds.

This was the method for TDT IV and I think it worked out quite well. It was all done and dusted within 2 hours. The problem with TDT V was that I had to throw Hablaskakaf and Cran under the bus as I wasn't able to run it, consequently the tournament did not run as smoothly as it could have given its last minute nature. 

Rather than you guys trying to add every newcomer, then having some missing when it starts and asking people if they know them etc, make it part of the rules that you add a certain account/s (Kay/habla/cran?) as friend before the event if not already and if you don't add them you won't be able to take part.

This is already in the rules, but I should probably alter it to further reiterate this fact. It is an important way of how we do things.

As a possible future suggestion.. If it had a $2 entry via paypal, then perhaps there could be a small prizepool % as well as some funds going to the organisers to keep it up and growing.

I think we're on the fence on this one, we don't want to alienate people by charging an entry fee for an online tournament given how volatile the platform can be but then on the other hand it can provide an incentive (however small) for players to participate and actually give it a go. I would like to hear other opinions on this, I'm sure cran would love a $1 salary though...  ;D

One option might be to create a dedicated Steam group that is administrable by key organisers of the bracket.

i.e. "Tournament on X date, join <group name> to enter."

That way when you lock down your registrations and are ready to generate brackets, you will have a shortlist of immediately accessible Steam handles that the tournament runner can use as a shortlist to invite into the stream game lobby. For those not playing in the stream lobby, they can pluck out the Steam handles from the group of those they are scheduled to play next and fire them an invite. Anyone not present/online in the group after the tournament starts could be considered bksama'd. Also keep in mind that Steam groups also have dedicated chat channels, which would be handy.

This might help get around the "Is <player> online? What is his Steam name?" I noticed cropping up when Mike and I were commentating. Even if players aren't on your personal buddy list, a dedicated Steam group for this kind of thing will help people find one another and kick off a bracket match quickly. There would be no excuses for not having them as a contact (unless they are using an alias - which I suggest you request players register as their tournament name) so you could then start getting aggressive with start times, which in my experience is the only way to get online tournaments to run smoothly.

Steam groups ALSO facilitate event creation AND allow you to invite players by Steam name to populate a short list. It also fires out reminder notices to players in advance of events that are beginning which I feel would be handy.

Something to consider.

We already utilize steam groups and steam chats to run our tournaments. It's one of the bigger reasons why the PC platform works a lot better than something like XBL. I will again clarify this in the OP just in case some people have missed it, but we do require them to jump into the relevant chat room before the tournament and check in, there is also a check-in feature on Challonge that we haven't used because it might make things a little too confusing but we may try it sometime.

The biggest problems so far, ignoring the fact that V was run with last minute instructions, has been people not signing up with an at least somewhat consistent steam name, changing aliases, not being online, and not being prompt in their responses to TOs or to other players who need to organise a match against them especially if they are in the losers bracket. We do try to minimize these problems by adding players and assigning steam 'nicknames' to ensure we know whos who but when it comes to matches that aren't streamed, its a lot harder for other players to find you and invite you to your assigned match against them. The tournament (usually) will only take as long as participates take to ready up and play.

Thanks for the suggestions and thanks to everyone who has participated thus far! I only started these tournaments to network and meet other players so I could learn the game both from my fellow newbies, the scary intermediates, and those godlike players cran always mentions and so far it has turned out a lot more successful than I would have guessed. PC is a great platform and myself, Habla, and Cran I'm sure are happy to help facilitate this growth.

Still haven't gotten anyone godlike to accept my FT100 challenges yet though. >_>

Re: USFIV PC - King of the Iron Scrub + Throwdown Thursdays
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2015, 07:12:19 PM »
Thankyou all who fought last night in KotIS V! Big congrats to Audacity and our runner-up, The Assman! We were able to fix the audio-clipping that happened at the last TDT so any other tournaments I stream should be good to go now, albeit some minor quality enhancements. VoDs of KotIS will be available soon, we'll keep you posted.

Final Bracket Results: http://aunfc.challonge.com/KOTISV

Supreme Champion: AuDaCiTy
Worthy Adversary:   The_Assman
Maybe Next Time:     Nezs
4th place:                  GroverFromBris
5th place tie:             Render_
                                  DrBoxface
7th place tie:            krazykid
                                  KingoftheKingfish
9th place tie:            professor_
                                 nsplayer
                                 kastle09
                                 OnlyOni
13th place tie:         MinionBum
                                 tacosanchez

Our next Iron Scrub tournament, KotIS VI will be on May 10, 2015 at 4:30 PM EST.
Keep an eye on our main info page; sticky'd over at https://www.reddit.com/r/IronScrub/ and we look forward to seeing you there!